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Per rendere più moderna la fotografia presumo.
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nella loro testa fa più figo. Solo che siccome sono cazzari hanno bruciato via molti dettagli. Poi insomma erano tutte cose VECCHIE, per Lucas più si nascondono meglio è //content.invisioncic.com/a283374/emoticons/laugh.png
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Decisamente meglio il nuovo nero. //content.invisioncic.com/a283374/emoticons/sisi.gif
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E' chiaro che la scelta sia stata attuata anche per andare in contro ai vostri gusti più contemporanei che sono abituati a contrasti più forti ma per capire la portata dei danni dovete guardare delle immagini più rappresentative. http://savestarwars.com/specialeditionfail.html
Dettagli distrutti, colori falsati, etc Bisogna anche tenere conto che le versioni passate con cui si fa il confronto sono ben lontane da essere la migliore possibile, proprio per questo bisognerebbe fare un buon restauro senza mettersi in testa che abbassando i neri che manco photoshop e rendendo l'audio più rimbombante il film sia più "moderno".
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Ed è assolutamente vero, ma in questo caso il crushed black contribuisce a dare una sensazione di maggior continuità, in questo caso visiva, tra le due trilogie.
La perdità di dettaglio la vedo più come un sacrificio triste ma necessario.
Per dirti, reputo molto più grave la questione Han Solo.
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Capisco cosa vuoi dire ma per me sono tutte cose gravi, anche quelle estetiche diventano concettuali. E' proprio la continuità che non può essere retroattiva. Sei Lucas e per motivi X vuoi fare un'altra trilogia molto molto diversa dalla prima? Ok. Ma riadattare il passato è una violenza sia verso i fan sia verso tutte le centinaia di altre persone che ci hanno lavorato.
Se Scott potesse e volesse riprendere in mano Alien per adattarlo a Prometheus, mettesse qualche ombra del mostro qua e là per costruire la tensione senza giocare di sottrazione non sarebbe uno scandalo? Oppure se i detentori dei diritti di Harry Potter (saga frammentatissima) una volta finiti i film cambiassero la paletta di colori di Columbus per farla essere simile agli ultimi, vendere il cofanetto e distruggere tutte le versioni precedenti?
Se voleva la continuità Lucas poteva provare a fare una trilogia sul filo della prima... Non è neanche solo una question di soldi, è che proprio come diceva Nozem c'ha la testa così e non poteva accettare di aver fatto, con molte altre persone, dei bei (pur non essendone io un grande ammiratore) film.
Dipende cosa ti piace. Se ti piace la nuova trilogia allora prendi i bluray.Io ho questa collection in dvd
ma volevo prendere quel bel cofanetto bluray.. non conviene?
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tornando in tema, secondo voi Max von Sydow potrebbe essere un possibile obi-wan in versione fantasma? per sostituire alec guinness
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E se invece fosse giusto a livello concettuale? Voglio dire, Lucas aveva sempre detto che la prima trilogia non era venuta fuori esattamente come egli l'aveva concepita per questioni di arretratezza tecnologica, e che anche per questo ha fatto prima gli episodi 4-5-6.
Alla luce di questo, a livello concettuale non dovrebbe essere la prima trilogia a riadattarsi in base alla seconda?
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Beh, in questo caso semplicemente doveva mettersi l'anima in pace. Il passato non si cambia, vengono papocchi ibridi. Poteva fare un remake, quello sì. Pensa quanto sarebbe stato più serio: ti assumi la responsabilità della tua visione, probabilmente ci fai anche i soldi e soprattutto non fai violenza alle altre persone che hanno creato i film e ai fan che l'hanno visto.
Ma il delirio di onnipotenza alla "my propertyyy" ha prevalso.
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Però Togg, delle infinite versioni di Blade Runner, oppure della versione Redux di Apocalypse Now cosa dovremmo dire invece? Per me il discorso non è del tutto sbagliato, solo che secondo me dovrebbero sempre mettere la doppia versione per coerenza verso chi vuole invece vedersi il film nella sua forma originale, soprattutto in casi come questi. Tipo ieri ho visto THX 1138 nella versione rimasterizzata, ma non si vergogna veramente Lucas di certe cose? Ok alcuni cambiamenti che sono veramente in meglio, ma certe robe sono fatte in computer grafica talmente posticcia che non capisco come abbia fatto a non rendersene conto lui stesso di quanto era brutta come idea.
possibili anticipazioni sul prossimo film
Here's what Galactic News One has to say about the plot of The Force Awakens,
"The film is dystopian and darker than Empire. Some 30-40 years have passed since Return of the Jedi, and the Empire and New Republic have been locked in a war of attrition. Everyone is languishing and sick of the war. The script, which is described as "too good for JJ Abrams", begins in space, above a desert planet -- presumably Tatooine.
The opening crawl details the ongoing turmoil in the galaxy. How the fall of the Emperor left a void of power, and how the heroes of Endor went into seclusion or kept fighting.
The current state of the war is described as being similar to the European theater of 1944, with the Empire being Germany and the Republic being the Allies. The Republic has finally taken the upper hand.
John Boyega and Daisy Ridley are the male and female leads.
Boyega is a force-sensitive Stormtrooper under command of Gwendoline Christie's character. He defects from the Empire over the course of the movie, ending up stranded on a desert planet (presumed to be Tatooine) during the first act. Having defied orders, Boyega is hunted as a deserter.
Gwendoline Christie portrays an Inquisitor. The Inquisitors are a group of lightsaber wielding individuals that may or may not be force sensitive and head up the Imperial Remnant. Inquisitors aren't Sith, but they are not Jedi either; they are hounds used to track down force sensitives, and they are implied to have assisted Vader's cleansing.
Daisy plays Kira, a character living on Tatooine with Max Von Sydow's character. Kira is a dusty survivalist tomboy. Sydow is a broken man from the prequel area that has become mostly cyborg. He is not force sensitive and for some reason collects artifacts that we've seen at critical points during the previous films, particularly ones relating to the Jedi and the Sith. Daisy shares his fascination with history, and she is revealed in Act II to be the daughter of Han and Leia. As someone with force sensitivity, she resents the fact that Luke went into exile before he could train her, and she hopes that the search for force-sensitive artifacts could lead her to him. She keeps her identity as a Solo under wraps in order to keep trouble away.
Sydow is a sort of mentor to Kira, and apparently his true identity is an Act III revelation that will surprise a lot of people. The contention is that he is an existing character from the prequel films, and the revelation of his identity will shock viewers.
Sydow's character is "not overtly" a villain, but has some sort of Sith connection.
Sydow's "hideout" is a downed AT-AT. Relics of the war are everywhere in the film; there is a real feeling that the entire galaxy is sick of the deadlock.
The blue lightsaber in the above picture is apparently the same one Luke lost on Bespin in Empire.
The ball droid from the trailer belongs to Kira.
On the desert planet (again, presumably Tatooine) Boyega meets up with Daisy and Sydow. At the end of the first act, Han Solo and Chewbacca take them all off planet in the Millennium Falcon. Shortly afterward, we learn that "Kira" is Han and Leia's daughter. Again, she keeps her identity secret to avoid unwanted trouble.
Kira's revelation dumbfounds Boyega and "other people."
Chewbacca's life debt extends to Han's whole family, and he is now sporting a robotic arm.
Han takes a liking to Boyega. Throughout the film he is in love with Boyega's decision to defy orders and ruin his career in the Imperial military. Han vouches for Boyega, having gone through something similar in his youth.
At some point, Han says the familiar "Hey, it's me!" line. Someone, of course, says the classic "I have a bad feeling about this." These are said to be the only self-referential "smile while rolling your eyes" lines of the film.
When asked whether Han dies, Spoiler Man replied that he will "not spoil the third act." This in and of itself does not reveal anything, but rather comes off as Spoiler Man being audacious, because answering the question is such a way would spoil the third act, if it were true.
Lando's Sullustan co-pilot from Return of the Jedi, Nien Nunb, makes a humorous appearance.
Lando is in the script and has apparently become famous.
Luke Skywalker has secluded himself from the galaxy, training only a handful of students since his exile. He fears for his future; as he comes closer to Yoda levels of power, he becomes more and more secluded. There are no Jedi in the open, but rumors persist that Luke has trained a few since the events of Endor.
Luke first appears in Act II à la Obi Wan dropping his hood in A New Hope. He survives the movie.
Boyega and Daisy become Luke's new apprentices.
Lupita Nyong'o is Luke's current apprentice, and Boyega's eventual love interest.
Luke exiled himself because of the ongoing war. With the galaxy in chaos, he had to ensure his safety so that a new generation could be trained. At least, that's his contention; the fact that he continues to exclude himself despite his great power indicates ulterior motive.
Only Han and Leia know where Luke is, a fact we learn aboard a Mon Cal cruiser in the film's second act.
Luke has grown to dislike using his lightsaber, but apparently draws it late in the movie and showcases his abilities against an Inquisitor. It's still green.
Luke speaks to Yoda's force ghost in the film.
Luke has a reveal in the film which, apparently, is stunning.
Leia is the leader of the New Republic. R2D2 and C3PO are with her during the film.
R2D2 and C3PO are the only comic relief characters in the film.
Carrie Fischer's real life daughter, Billie Lourd, plays Leia in a flashback sequence. Darth Vader appears in this flashback as well, which apparently takes place on Endor.
Yavin is in the film, presumably as the Republic's base of operations.
The Republic is building a super weapon on a Scandanavian-esque cold and forsaken forest world. Its ultimate purpose is unknown.
The Han Solo archetype is split between Oscar Isaac and Domhnall Gleeson.
Isaac is an ace pilot with the last name "Darklighter" who's been fighting the Imperial forces for years now. He's a bit of a hot shot.
He inherits the Millennium Falcon and is implied to be Kira's eventual love interest.
Domhnall Gleeson plays a scoundrel of sorts.
Adam Driver's character is an ambitious, force-sensitive pilot who falls to the dark side.
He is described as having a transformation that "only begins" in Episode VII.
He builds his own lightsaber (the one we see in the trailer). It's referred to as a "junk" lightsaber, which is why it looks different from that which we are familiar with.
The decision to give his initial lightsaber a cross-guard was apparently made wholly by the art department.
The lightsaber battles are written by K
an to be minimalistic and powerful.
Driver wears a mask because half of his face is cyborg.
He goes looking for Andy Serkis' character on the aforementioned Scandanavian-esque forest world, as we see in the teaser.
Andy Serkis is some kind of alien Sith exempt from the Rule of Two. He is implied to have existed for a long time, be very powerful, and is the speaker in the teaser.
Serkis is implied to have trained or used Palpatine for some obscure purpose.
Adam Driver receives or builds a new lightsaber after meeting with Serkis.
The Sith are not aligned with the Empire. Serkis' goals differ from Palpatine's. Serkis does not play or replace Darth Plagueis.
99.9% of the EU is disregarded. There's very much a sense of the old characters "passing the torch" to the newer characters.
John Boyega, Daisy Ridley, Oscar Isaac, Domhnall Gleeson, Lupita Nyong'o, Chewbacca, and the droids (presumably Sydow's character and Kira's ball droid) are the new "big 6". Adam Driver and Andy Serkis are Sith and Gwendoline Christie is an Imperial. Characters we still have no knowledge of are those played by Crystal Clarke, Pip Anderson, Christina Chong, Miltos Yerolemou, Greg Grunberg, and Warwick Davis.
"The film is dystopian and darker than Empire. Some 30-40 years have passed since Return of the Jedi, and the Empire and New Republic have been locked in a war of attrition. Everyone is languishing and sick of the war. The script, which is described as "too good for JJ Abrams", begins in space, above a desert planet -- presumably Tatooine.
The opening crawl details the ongoing turmoil in the galaxy. How the fall of the Emperor left a void of power, and how the heroes of Endor went into seclusion or kept fighting.
The current state of the war is described as being similar to the European theater of 1944, with the Empire being Germany and the Republic being the Allies. The Republic has finally taken the upper hand.
John Boyega and Daisy Ridley are the male and female leads.
Boyega is a force-sensitive Stormtrooper under command of Gwendoline Christie's character. He defects from the Empire over the course of the movie, ending up stranded on a desert planet (presumed to be Tatooine) during the first act. Having defied orders, Boyega is hunted as a deserter.
Gwendoline Christie portrays an Inquisitor. The Inquisitors are a group of lightsaber wielding individuals that may or may not be force sensitive and head up the Imperial Remnant. Inquisitors aren't Sith, but they are not Jedi either; they are hounds used to track down force sensitives, and they are implied to have assisted Vader's cleansing.
Daisy plays Kira, a character living on Tatooine with Max Von Sydow's character. Kira is a dusty survivalist tomboy. Sydow is a broken man from the prequel area that has become mostly cyborg. He is not force sensitive and for some reason collects artifacts that we've seen at critical points during the previous films, particularly ones relating to the Jedi and the Sith. Daisy shares his fascination with history, and she is revealed in Act II to be the daughter of Han and Leia. As someone with force sensitivity, she resents the fact that Luke went into exile before he could train her, and she hopes that the search for force-sensitive artifacts could lead her to him. She keeps her identity as a Solo under wraps in order to keep trouble away.
Sydow is a sort of mentor to Kira, and apparently his true identity is an Act III revelation that will surprise a lot of people. The contention is that he is an existing character from the prequel films, and the revelation of his identity will shock viewers.
Sydow's character is "not overtly" a villain, but has some sort of Sith connection.
Sydow's "hideout" is a downed AT-AT. Relics of the war are everywhere in the film; there is a real feeling that the entire galaxy is sick of the deadlock.
The blue lightsaber in the above picture is apparently the same one Luke lost on Bespin in Empire.
The ball droid from the trailer belongs to Kira.
On the desert planet (again, presumably Tatooine) Boyega meets up with Daisy and Sydow. At the end of the first act, Han Solo and Chewbacca take them all off planet in the Millennium Falcon. Shortly afterward, we learn that "Kira" is Han and Leia's daughter. Again, she keeps her identity secret to avoid unwanted trouble.
Kira's revelation dumbfounds Boyega and "other people."
Chewbacca's life debt extends to Han's whole family, and he is now sporting a robotic arm.
Han takes a liking to Boyega. Throughout the film he is in love with Boyega's decision to defy orders and ruin his career in the Imperial military. Han vouches for Boyega, having gone through something similar in his youth.
At some point, Han says the familiar "Hey, it's me!" line. Someone, of course, says the classic "I have a bad feeling about this." These are said to be the only self-referential "smile while rolling your eyes" lines of the film.
When asked whether Han dies, Spoiler Man replied that he will "not spoil the third act." This in and of itself does not reveal anything, but rather comes off as Spoiler Man being audacious, because answering the question is such a way would spoil the third act, if it were true.
Lando's Sullustan co-pilot from Return of the Jedi, Nien Nunb, makes a humorous appearance.
Lando is in the script and has apparently become famous.
Luke Skywalker has secluded himself from the galaxy, training only a handful of students since his exile. He fears for his future; as he comes closer to Yoda levels of power, he becomes more and more secluded. There are no Jedi in the open, but rumors persist that Luke has trained a few since the events of Endor.
Luke first appears in Act II à la Obi Wan dropping his hood in A New Hope. He survives the movie.
Boyega and Daisy become Luke's new apprentices.
Lupita Nyong'o is Luke's current apprentice, and Boyega's eventual love interest.
Luke exiled himself because of the ongoing war. With the galaxy in chaos, he had to ensure his safety so that a new generation could be trained. At least, that's his contention; the fact that he continues to exclude himself despite his great power indicates ulterior motive.
Only Han and Leia know where Luke is, a fact we learn aboard a Mon Cal cruiser in the film's second act.
Luke has grown to dislike using his lightsaber, but apparently draws it late in the movie and showcases his abilities against an Inquisitor. It's still green.
Luke speaks to Yoda's force ghost in the film.
Luke has a reveal in the film which, apparently, is stunning.
Leia is the leader of the New Republic. R2D2 and C3PO are with her during the film.
R2D2 and C3PO are the only comic relief characters in the film.
Carrie Fischer's real life daughter, Billie Lourd, plays Leia in a flashback sequence. Darth Vader appears in this flashback as well, which apparently takes place on Endor.
Yavin is in the film, presumably as the Republic's base of operations.
The Republic is building a super weapon on a Scandanavian-esque cold and forsaken forest world. Its ultimate purpose is unknown.
The Han Solo archetype is split between Oscar Isaac and Domhnall Gleeson.
Isaac is an ace pilot with the last name "Darklighter" who's been fighting the Imperial forces for years now. He's a bit of a hot shot.
He inherits the Millennium Falcon and is implied to be Kira's eventual love interest.
Domhnall Gleeson plays a scoundrel of sorts.
Adam Driver's character is an ambitious, force-sensitive pilot who falls to the dark side.
He is described as having a transformation that "only begins" in Episode VII.
He builds his own lightsaber (the one we see in the trailer). It's referred to as a "junk" lightsaber, which is why it looks different from that which we are familiar with.
The decision to give his initial lightsaber a cross-guard was apparently made wholly by the art department.
The lightsaber battles are written by K
Driver wears a mask because half of his face is cyborg.
He goes looking for Andy Serkis' character on the aforementioned Scandanavian-esque forest world, as we see in the teaser.
Andy Serkis is some kind of alien Sith exempt from the Rule of Two. He is implied to have existed for a long time, be very powerful, and is the speaker in the teaser.
Serkis is implied to have trained or used Palpatine for some obscure purpose.
Adam Driver receives or builds a new lightsaber after meeting with Serkis.
The Sith are not aligned with the Empire. Serkis' goals differ from Palpatine's. Serkis does not play or replace Darth Plagueis.
99.9% of the EU is disregarded. There's very much a sense of the old characters "passing the torch" to the newer characters.
John Boyega, Daisy Ridley, Oscar Isaac, Domhnall Gleeson, Lupita Nyong'o, Chewbacca, and the droids (presumably Sydow's character and Kira's ball droid) are the new "big 6". Adam Driver and Andy Serkis are Sith and Gwendoline Christie is an Imperial. Characters we still have no knowledge of are those played by Crystal Clarke, Pip Anderson, Christina Chong, Miltos Yerolemou, Greg Grunberg, and Warwick Davis.
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